Comments on: When is enough, enough? http://getanewbrowser.com/2007/07/when-is-enough-enough/ analyzing the business and technology of the web Mon, 01 Dec 2008 19:38:12 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: TJ http://getanewbrowser.com/2007/07/when-is-enough-enough/#comment-34863 TJ Fri, 17 Aug 2007 23:00:35 +0000 http://getanewbrowser.com/2007/07/when-is-enough-enough/#comment-34863 Andrew - I hear ya man. 100%. I know it takes more time for me to go back later and try and restyle things. Its a tough catch 22 to be caught in. I really love your site BTW. I submitted a couple myself. How did you find this blog? Thanks again for the comment! Andrew - I hear ya man. 100%. I know it takes more time for me to go back later and try and restyle things. Its a tough catch 22 to be caught in.

I really love your site BTW. I submitted a couple myself. How did you find this blog? Thanks again for the comment!

]]> By: Andrew http://getanewbrowser.com/2007/07/when-is-enough-enough/#comment-34857 Andrew Fri, 10 Aug 2007 16:49:34 +0000 http://getanewbrowser.com/2007/07/when-is-enough-enough/#comment-34857 Great article. Couldn't agree more. Our developers are under such tight deadlines that sacrifice standards and accessibility practices way to often. The worst part is that it ends up creating more work down the road when you realize 90% of your application or project doesn't display in Safari or other similar crippling issues as a result of bad markup. Great article. Couldn’t agree more. Our developers are under such tight deadlines that sacrifice standards and accessibility practices way to often. The worst part is that it ends up creating more work down the road when you realize 90% of your application or project doesn’t display in Safari or other similar crippling issues as a result of bad markup.

]]> By: TJ Mapes http://getanewbrowser.com/2007/07/when-is-enough-enough/#comment-34844 TJ Mapes Mon, 30 Jul 2007 20:28:57 +0000 http://getanewbrowser.com/2007/07/when-is-enough-enough/#comment-34844 I agree 100%. That should be why you want to work on the web cause it changes so fast. I agree 100%. That should be why you want to work on the web cause it changes so fast.

]]> By: J Phill http://getanewbrowser.com/2007/07/when-is-enough-enough/#comment-34843 J Phill Mon, 30 Jul 2007 18:35:17 +0000 http://getanewbrowser.com/2007/07/when-is-enough-enough/#comment-34843 Yeah that is not a good thing, that just because of age they don't think they will/want to learn anything new. Anyone working on the web these days should always be willing to learn because of how fast things move. Yeah that is not a good thing, that just because of age they don’t think they will/want to learn anything new. Anyone working on the web these days should always be willing to learn because of how fast things move.

]]> By: TJ Mapes http://getanewbrowser.com/2007/07/when-is-enough-enough/#comment-34842 TJ Mapes Mon, 30 Jul 2007 18:06:08 +0000 http://getanewbrowser.com/2007/07/when-is-enough-enough/#comment-34842 Hey J, Yeah, we actually have written standards that frown on tables for non-tabular data etc etc.. And obviously "br" tags. I honestly believe at least in this particular shop, it's more an age and a "i'm not going to learn anything new" kinda thing. Similar to what your speaking of. Thanks for your comment. I was basically just wondering if anyone has had similar situations and what the end result was. Thanks again J. Hey J,

Yeah, we actually have written standards that frown on tables for non-tabular data etc etc.. And obviously “br” tags. I honestly believe at least in this particular shop, it’s more an age and a “i’m not going to learn anything new” kinda thing.

Similar to what your speaking of.

Thanks for your comment. I was basically just wondering if anyone has had similar situations and what the end result was.

Thanks again J.

]]> By: J Phill http://getanewbrowser.com/2007/07/when-is-enough-enough/#comment-34841 J Phill Mon, 30 Jul 2007 16:05:43 +0000 http://getanewbrowser.com/2007/07/when-is-enough-enough/#comment-34841 I think I understand where you are coming from. Are these coworkers familiar with web standards and such? I guess I'm trying to understand why they don't care much about their markup. I've worked with someone in the past who had decent markup, but didn't care to learn new stuff because it was stuck in his ways. It was frustrating to work with, and there wasn't much I could do about it. My suggestion to you, would be to possibly organize code reviews for projects. In other words, if your team would take some time out to go over how a site was coded. That could be your chance to speak up and question their skills and make them answer questions. I think I understand where you are coming from. Are these coworkers familiar with web standards and such? I guess I’m trying to understand why they don’t care much about their markup.

I’ve worked with someone in the past who had decent markup, but didn’t care to learn new stuff because it was stuck in his ways. It was frustrating to work with, and there wasn’t much I could do about it.

My suggestion to you, would be to possibly organize code reviews for projects. In other words, if your team would take some time out to go over how a site was coded. That could be your chance to speak up and question their skills and make them answer questions.

]]> By: TJ http://getanewbrowser.com/2007/07/when-is-enough-enough/#comment-34840 TJ Sun, 29 Jul 2007 02:52:47 +0000 http://getanewbrowser.com/2007/07/when-is-enough-enough/#comment-34840 so much for getting a response haha oh well... I know your all thinking about it deeply. so much for getting a response haha oh well… I know your all thinking about it deeply.

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