More on IE7 and CSS changes

25 Aug

Posted by Andy Brudtkuhl under Development

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Yes, yes, another IE7 and CSS post. I’ll keep this one short and sweet.

Over at the IE Blog, they have recently posted a nice list of all the changes thus far concerning IE7 and CSS.

The list is good and there are many fixes that will be very nice to developers, but unfortunately it still will not be as compliant as Mozilla. I won’t regurgitate the list, so you can check it out there. But I will share with you excerpts from some of my favorite comments.

From Tino Zijdel

From this blog-post it looks to me like Trident has only be patched up to work around certain common problems (sure, it makes you look good), but in essence IE7 will still have a very broken CSS-implementation and that makes you look really really bad because it is the last thing developers want. Please don’t ship a browser that is vastly different from the previous version, but still as fundamentally broken.

From Adam

Well done IE Team!! Thanks for listening, and thank you for your hard work. I can’t wait until I have to drop support for IE6!

From Pia

That’s nice. Now restore customizability to the UI. It’s clunky, counterintuitive, and just plain ugly.

From Arrix

Thanks for your hard work! IE7 will definitely make our life easier. However, I’m a bit disspointed to have heard that you fix specific bugs instead of implementing correct support for CSS2. Thanks anyway!

From Erik

… As to the IE CSS fixes, good work. Though my grudge against IE is intensely psychological at this point, improvements like these do much to erase that.

From Michael

When will you completely acquire Firefox and then make it correctly display all web-pages as IE has done for a long time? I’m really tired of hearing, “But it doesn’t work in Firefox…”

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6 Responses

TJ

August 25th, 2006 at 2:46 pm
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From Adam

Well done IE Team!! Thanks for listening, and thank you for your hard work. I can’t wait until I have to drop support for IE6!

This is the funniest and most truthful of them all… I was just talking about this yesterday. Even though IE7 will come soon, we will have to freakin test for IE6 till I get fed up with web design and just become a full time Jiggalo.
Andy Brudtkuhl

August 26th, 2006 at 1:45 pm
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Yea, we will have to support it until Microsoft stops supporting it. I had a discussion with another developer the other day about just not caring about how stuff looks in IE6.

The original Get A New Browser (which was a site that aggregated IE incompatibility news) directed people to getFirefox.com when they browsed to the site via IE 6. Unfortunately we cannot do that here as we would alienate about 35-40% of our audience.
Joel

August 28th, 2006 at 12:07 am
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Andy: it’ll be a long time after that that we will still have to support it. Will IE7 work on Windows 98, NT or 2000? Many businesses are still running those OS’s remember.
Andy Brudtkuhl

August 28th, 2006 at 11:28 am
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No, It will not run on those ooperating systems. But, MS does not support 98, ME, or NT so I don’t believe developers should have to either.

Again, this debate comes down to knowing your audience. Check your logs to figure out who is viewing your site in which browser.

See IE7 minimum requirements here http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie/ie7/about/sysreqs/default.mspx
Brett Terpstra

August 31st, 2006 at 4:57 pm
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Holy crap, you found the gems in the comments. I follow the IE blog, but get bored after the first 100 comments, 90% of which are from staunch IE supporters who don’t seem to have a clue… thanks for weeding through and finding something for me to LOL about.

I can’t wait to drop support for IE6, but at this point I’ll be happy to let go of 5.5. I still have Netscape 4 and IE5.0 showing up on the stats (in small numbers, obviously) for some of the sites I run ;=(.
Andy Brudtkuhl

September 5th, 2006 at 11:47 am
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Yea it took awhile to wade through all the IE Fanboys’ comments.